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a joke for Lalu at the end of it



Posted by:Hannah (‘mejane@cruelgenius.com’)
Posted on: 11 Aug 2003
 
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I have read the article now. I do not get the vitriole, and I disagree with what I perceive your criticisms of the article to be. In your second post, there's a moment where you say you found yourself annoyed halfway through, thinking it was maybe taking you more time to read it than it took him to write it - this sounds like a more comprehensible and understandable criticism to me, and on a much more reasonable intensity level than the first post. There is a throwaway feeling to the article, I will meet you there, but for me, it was also a pretty candy-corn read, so I didn't really find that annoying, but I can see how you could, I reckon.

I found the beginning a little silly and slightly annoying in a way that I sometimes find snippets of things richard writes, and yet it is endearing to me somehow. I'm specifically referring to the long thing about why he didn't really give a real hang about Bangs back in '76, but how now he misses him - it's reminiscent of some other posthumous (to the subjects, of course) comments richard's made; it kind of makes me laugh and shake my head at what comes off as a uniquely richard mix of narcissism and genuine sentimentality or care. Perhaps that could be construed as banal, but I think it's just richard's head, and I like it.

Like he says in the article, we like writers for the company they give us, ultimately, and I liked this article specifically for the mind and thinking behind it, even though I will never agree with Richard on the quality of Patti Smith's writing, for example. I tended to agree with his opinions of Bangs, though I haven't read as extensively as I probably ought to form a SUPER-informed opinion, I have read enough to know that my sense of him is about what Richard reports.

I don't find this writing a lot different to a lot of what I've read of Hell. I don't see any kind of overarching need to be transgressive in his stuff. The point I see when I read him is that he's authentic to himself, and I personally find his opinions and analysis respectable when the topics interest me. Finally, I don't get what the beef was with the last comment on the book being more miles davis and rolling stones... ? Just because it was off-the-cuff and an easy reference? What? I just don't have any issues with an article like this being kind of broadly accessible...

So, Lalu: what do you call it when two idiots have rectal intercourse??

banal sex, for sure. Please don't hit me.

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         Flash: Hell on Lester Bangs up by Roy Suggs, 7 Aug 2003 (12)
                 FoCuS riCHarD FoCuS by The Masked Deceptoid, 10 Aug 2003
                         You really should be a critic by hell's belles, 11 Aug 2003
                                 Sorry Furies: I patronize myself by The Masked Deceptoid, 11 Aug 2003
                                         rant-man by Mitchell, 11 Aug 2003
                                         maybe, better still by Hannah, 11 Aug 2003
                                         Hell hath no fury............... by hell's belles, 12 Aug 2003
                                                 ...............like a critic scorned. by hell's bimbos, 13 Aug 2003
                                                         You critics are all alike... by hell's belles, 13 Aug 2003
                         Precious one... by Ginger, 11 Aug 2003
                         a joke for Lalu at the end of it by Hannah, 11 Aug 2003
                                 Criticism as an aRt fOrM by The Masked Ranter, 12 Aug 2003
                                         good, by Hannah, 13 Aug 2003

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